Gruesome
Gruesome wounds to estranged wife described in court:
28-year-old Ryan Dieterle of Ohio is not a very nice man if the charges against him are correct. He is accused of killing his estranged wife Michelle. But this was no ordinary killing. Michelle Dieterle was killed in one of the most brutal ways possible. I’m putting it behind the cut because as the title describes it is rather gruesome.
Ryan Dieterle’s attack on his wife Michelle was so savage that any one of seven wounds - including cuts to her genitals - could have caused her death.
That was Tuesday’s testimony from Obinna Ugwu, the Hamilton County Coroner’s Office pathologist.
Bruising to the exterior and interior of her vagina and anus - likely delivered by a knife - prove her killer intended to deliver humiliating and excruciating pain to her as she lay dying, Ugwu testified.
Ugwu said one particular nasty wound to Michelle Dieterle, 26, meant her killer was trying to stab her genitals.
Ryan Dieterle us accused of raping and murdering his wife and violating a protective order which once again shows how useless protective orders can be.
Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.
Tags: Domestic Violence, murder, ohio, Ryan-DieterlePOSTED IN: Domestic Violence
38 opinions for Gruesome
Gayla
Sep 23, 2007 at 6:53 pm
What a horrible way to go. I can only hope that someone much bigger then him gets similar ideas once this sick pup is behind bars.
PsychL
Sep 23, 2007 at 7:03 pm
Ok now, i agree in that sometimes Love doesn’t last forever, but to do those things to a person you were supossed to love (at least for a period of time)? I mean that was pure evil!! I feel very bad for that woman, she was my age :(
cincigal
Sep 26, 2007 at 9:19 am
I hope this POS gets his in prison when they discover what he did. He needs to die exactly how his poor ex-wife did. Let’s find someone to protude a knife right into his genitals and give him a taste of what she went through. I will be cheering them on when they do it to him! :)
Soobs
Sep 26, 2007 at 9:45 am
Love has nothing to do with what he did, or domestic violence in general. Those people don’t know what “love” is.
Ryan Dieterle found guilty
Sep 27, 2007 at 6:51 pm
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jen
Sep 27, 2007 at 8:39 pm
I agree that this was an aweful, brutal situation
that makes me sick to my stomach.
But I also know that God is a God of forgiveness and I believe Ryan Dieterle is sorry and has asked for forgiveness for this sick, horrible act of jealousy.
He deserves to pay for what he did but he is Forgiven. Therefore, he will live in eternity someday. Hopefully, he will be able to say he is sorry to Michelle.
PsychL
Sep 27, 2007 at 9:09 pm
Exactly. Love was non-existent there. He was supossed to love her as a husband, but he didn’t. I’m glad that bastard is locked up for good.
Fallen_angel4155
Sep 28, 2007 at 11:18 pm
I wonder If any of you knew him in real life other then what you see on the news? I did. him and his family and me and my family went to the same church. we were in the youth group together. I always noticed he had an attitude, but i just never imagined something like this. i know he used to be a good person. i know that everytime we gathered in a circle to pray in youth group i would try to stand next to him cause we always had to join hands to pray. when i was young i had a crush on him in a big way. but that is when we were teenagers. it’s kinda hard to deal with knowing how he was, and what he has gone and done now.
Sara Swisshelm
Oct 1, 2007 at 10:46 pm
Re: Ryan Dieterle…i find it interseting that you all are willing to base your judgements and opinions on three minute news reels by the media, who by my accounts in the courtroom, did a vrey poor job at reporting the facts. I know Ryan Diterle and was there for the trial and I know the facts and find it disturbing that so many of you are so quick to label him when you do not know the facts, nor know how much more there is to him than what they choose to tell you on the news. They didn’t tell you that the leading expert on forensic pathology IN THE WORLD said that Michelle slit his throat from behind before any kind of other violence took place. They didn’t show you the witnesses that told of how he has contributed to his life, like his friend dennis, who has cerebral palsy. The media is tailor made for bozos like you who swallow what is so easliy fed to you in your naive trust in the media. This man made a grave mistake, one that he does feel deep remorse, ghuilt, sadness and grief for. Judge not, lest ye be judged; Fallen angel, thank you for your words, i am sure I know you and that my aunt and uncle have benefited from your prayers. May compassion, love and forgiveness rule the hearts of men.
Grieving for Michelle
Oct 2, 2007 at 10:25 am
Those people are speaking the truth as was proven in that court of law. I truly do have the right to rebut your statement because I do know Ryan Dieterle and you and I shared that courtroom. The only thing is, your “truth” is distorted by the devil that you so care for otherwise known as Ryan. Open your eyes. How can you hear in such details the horrible things that he did to Michelle and still think he has somehow been wronged? You are correct in saying that he made a grave mistake. Unfortunately for Michelle, it is her grave. Also, you are correct on another point. His family and friends were able to speak for him, but they spoke about an 11 year old, not the evil man that he is now. They also failed to talk about Ryan threatening his own mother. I believe the police were involved in that. Now isn’t that convenient? Were they telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help them? I don’t think so. If Michelle had ever done anything to Ryan it would have only been in her own defense and that is the truth. You see she wasn’t the one who was violent, that would be your man Ryan. He had proven that in the past when he trashed their apartment and he hit her. Can you say restraining order? Let’s all feel sorry for poor little Ryan, leaving his parents house to go to “reconcile to save his marriage”. Excuse me while I gag. Everyone I know does that in the middle of the night and they climb balconies, hang from gutters and break in to do so. Seriously, are you really that naïve? Since you had a crush (and obviously still do) on Ryan, perhaps you should follow your heart. He is single now thanks to his own heinous acts. Perhaps he can climb up into your window sometime. Do you want to take that chance?
Ann
Oct 2, 2007 at 2:39 pm
Media, bozos, my goodness, what a simple mind you must have to believe only one side of this awful situation. Did you not also hear THE FAMOUS WORLD WIDE FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST say the wounds could have been self-inflicted? I think Ryan just couldn’t stand the pain to kill himself, which makes him a chicken and a weenie as much as evil. The vow, “Until death us do part”, had an entirely different meaning in Ryan’s mind. I don’t know how you know God has forgiven him…. you are not God, God sees and knows his heart, all you see is the falsehood he is showing while trying to save his own neck. God decides who dies and when. Not your fallen angel. Do you not wonder why he scaled the side of that building twice? Why do you think he preferred to SNEAK into her room in the middle of the night? Why do you think he was unconcerned about somebody else being there? He had one thing on his mind, and he was determined to accomplish what he went after. He is possessive, evil, spoiled, and selfish. So you all went to the same church,,,,well hallelujah, you have seen the sanctification of evil, hate, lies and murder. And to think you held hands with it. If I were you I would thank the Lord, you just held hands, and pray for a cleansing, Ryan missed the death sentence, but that is fine, because I am sure your fallen angel will have a lot of biiiig boyfriends, now the length of his new romance will remain a question. I hear people in the big house do not like this kind of killing.
ps: Lucifer was also a fallen angel, think they knew each other?
Ann
Oct 2, 2007 at 2:45 pm
Media, bozos??? Did you not also hear THE FAMOUS WORLD WIDE FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST say the wounds could have been self-inflicted? I think Ryan just couldn’t stand the pain to kill himself, which makes him a chicken and a weenie as much as evil. The vow, “Until death us do part”, had an entirely different meaning in Ryan’s mind. I don’t know how you know God has forgiven him…. you are not God, God sees and knows his heart, all you see is the falsehood he is showing while trying to save his own neck. God decides who dies and when. Not your fallen angel. Do you not wonder why he scaled the side of that building twice? Why do you think he preferred to SNEAK into her room in the middle of the night? Why do you think he was unconcerned about somebody else being there? He had one thing on his mind, and he was determined to accomplish what he went after. He is possessive, evil, spoiled, and selfish. So you all went to the same church,,,,well hallelujah, you have seen the sanctification of evil, hate, lies and murder. And to think you held hands with it. If I were you I would thank the Lord, you just held hands, and pray for a cleansing, Ryan missed the death sentence, but that is fine, because I am sure your fallen angel will have a lot of biiiig boyfriends, now the length of his new romance will remain a question. I hear people in the big house do not like this kind of killing.
ps: Lucifer was also a fallen angel, think they knew each other?
Missing Michelle
Oct 2, 2007 at 6:03 pm
I can’t believe that anyone would support Ryan Dieterle knowing the horrible things he did to Michelle. If anyone sitting in that courtroom thinks that she got what she deserved, or that she somehow started the fight that led to her death, or that she would have been capable of cutting him the way he and his defense team claim, then they didn’t know Michelle at all. The Michelle I know was a young woman, mother of two, that loved her family with everything she had. She loved her girls and wanted what was best for them. She loved the man she married that treated her badly prior to the rape, torture and murder he committed on her in June. She was going to school to make life better for herself, her children and, yes, even him…..before his jealousy of her intelligence and drive to better herself overcame him and drove him to climb three stories, scale a wall and sneak into a window in the middle of the night. The Michelle I knew took care of people and made sure that they had the things they needed before she had what she needed. The Michelle I knew never left you wondering how she felt about things and if you didn’t want to know you probably shouldn’t have asked her in the first place. Michelle was a strong minded woman and it’s obvious that Ryan wasn’t man enough to be able to accept that. A real man would have walked away when she told him to and left it alone. Only a coward would do the horrific things to someone and then pretend to cry to a jury just to spare his life. Do you suppose that at some point while he was murdering Michelle that she got the chance to plead for her life? I, like Grieving for Michelle, sat in the courtroom every day and heard the things he did to Michelle. I don’t understand how anyone could support a person like that but I guess people have to do what they feel they must. Ryan will answer in more ways than one for what he’s done. One of those ways will be in prison, or so I hear, and I hope he learns to enjoy it because I’m sure that he will be getting it in the end quite frequently.
Sara
Oct 2, 2007 at 9:48 pm
I want you to know, all of you that grieve for Michelle, that I do not think she “got what she deserved” and don’t think I ever implied that. i think something really crazy happeneed that night and none of us will ever truly know what happened. I don;t feel that the media was fair in their reporting. i get nothing from standing up for him, whats done is done. I was simply making a point about the media and that they did not share the facts fairly, just as they haven’t from day one. Ryan said that to his mom when he was 17 years old. i am very very sorry for your loss and I can’t imagine what it would be like on your side of things. But I do know Ryan, as you knew Michelle and i’m sorry that you feel that he does not feel remorse…he feels very very deep remorse. I say this in hopes that it gives you somekind of peace. If i was on your side, i would want to know that he was sorry,even if my anger was not diminished in the least, you should know that he is sorry. he will live with it fot the rest of his life. Everyone lost here. trin and kaitlyn lost the most. i just dont feel that one death fixes the other, and i can understand that on your side, you feel that it is justice that only one side of the story was told. Maybe the michelle you knew would never be capable of cutting Ryan, but the Ryan i know would never be capable of what he did. i;’m surwe that we could never agree on this, and I would never expect you to feel anything for Ryan except hate. I feel like I know of things of Michelle that pointed to her not being completly incapable of hurting him. I am sorry that you are angry that anyone would say anything in his defense, but it is in my heart, and I do not belive the devil is in my heart. i only wish forgiveness and compassion, because without it, revenge rules hearts, and that gets people no where. I really wish you nothing but the best and i am again very sorry if i upset you …you do not deserve to feel any more pain than what you have felt. You are right, Ryan will pay. And so will everyone around him.
I knew them Both
Oct 3, 2007 at 6:05 am
Ryan will not be forgiven by God because he is not capable of being truly sorry. A big reason why Ryan is the way he is is because Morons like you keep supporting him. No one cares what he was like as a child he grew up to be a monster with the help of his loving and supportive family who keep making excuses for him. GO FIGURE!!! Right on Missing Michelle and Grieving for Michelle! There isn’t any need to repeat what they have already said. God will punish him rest assured. Karma is a bi*** for those of you who are commenting on his behalf as well. He was found guilty on all charges and that is that. I loved Michelle dearly and she was an amazing person that had something special that is undescribable. Ryan couldn’t deal with the fact that he wasn’t good enough for her.
Diana
Oct 12, 2007 at 2:51 pm
Or maybe Michelle wasn’t good enough for him. She was a liar,adulterer, and killed her baby. What does that make her? Do you think God forgave her? Her brother is the one that got Ryan hooked on cocaine, he is an accident waiting to happen. He was kicked out of the service for drug use. Ryan is sorry, and those of you who say the things you do, look at your lives and see what YOU can do to make the world a better place.
Diana
Oct 12, 2007 at 2:53 pm
Oh, and by the way…the Bible says if you ask for forgiveness the Lord will give it. So, he is forgiven.
Diana
Oct 12, 2007 at 2:54 pm
and I guess her constant emails and phone calls to Ryan to come over and reconcile weren’t an invitation
daytwo
Oct 13, 2007 at 10:05 pm
What? No opinion now Josh? You aren’t any better than the scum on my feet. Some day soon you’ll be sharing a cell with someone in the Justice Center and maybe your mom might get in the car and drive from Indiana to help you, like she didn’t Michelle.
Linda
Oct 15, 2007 at 7:55 am
Maybe this name sounds familiar to some of you, like maybe the people who are accusing my dead daughter of doing things she didn’t do. Or maybe this name sounds familiar to those of you who are on here posting things about my son that you know nothing about. First of all, my son did not get kicked out of the army, he served his four years and didn’t re-enlist. He is not the cocaine addict, RYAN IS!! Joshua and Michelle were not the ones on trial, RYAN WAS!! Ryan got everything he deserved and Michelle got justice. I have never wished death on Ryan, all I ever wanted for my daughter was justice, however that justice was served. If you people cared enough about other people as much as you claim to care about yourselves or Ryan you would understand our pain and suffering and keep your filthy mouths shut. How dare you talk about my dead daughter this way. She made her mistakes in life and she owned them. The reason she owned them was because that’s how she was raised. She wasn’t raised to run to mommy and daddy everytime she couldn’t make a decision. She came to us for help, like any child would, but then she took care of herself and her problems, herself. As for her dad paying her bills, she told me that when she married Ryan that stopped, because now it was Ryan’s time to step up. Obviously, he didn’t step up and Michelle had to turn to her father again. As for slamming on me, you do what you feel you must do. I helped Michelle in the way Michelle wanted me to help her. It was me she called when Ryan hit her and it was me she called when Ryan threw her over the coffee table and smashed up her apartment. It was me who told her to get him out of her life before he killed her, I guess that was mother’s intuition, wasn’t it. So, for you to say that I didn’t do anything to help my daughter you are wrong. Just because I didn’t write a check doesn’t mean I wasn’t helping her. Ryan is a murdering, vicious animal. I can understand your support of Ryan at first but when the truth came out and you saw what he did to Michelle how could you possibly sit there in support of him? And then to say the things you have said about Michelle now that she’s dead, that you apparently didn’t have the nerve to say when she was alive, is beyond me. Michelle was my child and to sit here and see these things written about her because you are angry at us for speaking our minds and releasing our pain at the person who took a beautiful soul away from us angers and saddens me beyond belief. I can’t believe that you call yourself, if you do, a Christian and then say the things you have said. A post was made earlier by someone in Ryan’s family or maybe it was a friend of the family with the bible verse, judge not lest ye be judged. Well, I would practice that if I were you because you seem to be casting a lot of judgement on me and my family. Michelle is dead, I will never see her again. You on the other hand will get to see Ryan as often as you like so be sure to give him a hug and tell him how much you love him and how proud you are of him. I would do the same for my daughter if she were here for me to do just that. This is the last time I will give you any thought or that I will see what you have to say about my children. I will be strong for Michelle, I will fight for Michelle, but I will not give you the satisfaction of thinking that I give a sh*t about you or your family. To me, all of you are dead, especially Ryan. Go to hell, all of you!
Grieving for Michelle
Oct 15, 2007 at 8:09 am
Daytwo you are the scum. You and your’s have shown your backside (and your true side) once again. Her family has no reason to feel bad because they didn’t do this, Ryan did. It’s much easier to cast hate and venom at a dead person and the people who loved her than to look at the actions of your own family member isn’t it? Remember it was you and yours who started this. Obviously you some real issues. There are therapists out there just waiting to get their hands on someone like you. Can’t face that? Then just for a moment, try putting yourself in someone else’s shoes. Are you too selfish to do that? Probably. How would you feel if someone had done this to your child, and how would you feel if their family continued to bad mouth her when she was dead like she deserved this? Again, you have serious issues and you should be ashamed. Even your beloved Ryan hung his head in shame at his actions. You, however, don’t even have that much couth. You deserve no more of our words or time. May Ryan’s actions haunt you and yours forever because that is what you deserve.
Kathy
Oct 15, 2007 at 1:24 pm
Wow. I don’t know either, but I don’t see any sense at all in attacking the victim. It’s low and disgusting. She’s already paid for all her mistakes with her LIFE. Remorseful or not, what’s done is done. Ryan is a murderer, and probably one of the most sadistic I have ever heard of. Plain and simple. You can’t take murder back. What you knew of him in the past is all changed now. This is the present and it can’t be refuted.
April
Oct 15, 2007 at 3:10 pm
Ryan has been one of my best friends for 17 years, and no matter what some of you may think of him, there are lots of people who still love and support him!!-and thats not going to change!! Im not sure what book your reading, but The Bible says that anyone who asks for forgiveness-receives forgiveness!! Ryan is very sorry for what happened and has changed alot, not that any of you care.We can all disagree and argue back and forth but it wont change anything.We are all suffering.
Fallen_angel
Oct 16, 2007 at 6:42 pm
for all the jerks that don’t know me and wanted to take a stab at me just cause i said that when we were KIDS i had a crush on him and that we went to church together, i never once said what he did was ok i just said was hard to take in, never once did i say that michelle got what she diserved. OK. this was a terrible crime. it was very very sad and horrific. and yes i did pray that he DIDN’T get the death penalty. cause it’s not right to murder him cause he did the same to some one else. it is not our place to judge him in anyway even though it would be easy to do so. that is where God steps in. he is the one that will decides what truely happens in his life. i feel terrible for what happened to Michelle and for the record i wasn’t saying at all that it was ok or exceptable, or anything along thoughs lines. and to SARAH yes you do know me my maiden name was Crystal Stophlet Grandaughter of Jeanne, who still goes to that church. and as for me still having a crush on him, no. that was when we we little. I am almost 30 years old now. i have 2 children myself both girls. I have been married 2x. my first husband beat the crap out of me. but no one cared cause he was a firefighter. he killed our first daughter while i was still pregnant with her @ 7 1/2 months cause he hit me. and i litterally almost had my right hand cut off and now i have permanant nerve damage cause he put my hand through our glass door. And to the people that questioned my christianity, i am very much so a christian and proud to be one Fallen_angel is just a freakin yahoo handle and handles don’t always reflect our lives. and whether you people like it or not ANYONE who comes to God and asks for forgivness will recieve such, even if we have commited horrific crimes. I too Use to smoke pot and snort cocaine, but God delivered me from that and forgave me for my sins i have in the past commited adultry and did alot of not so good things but you know what God forgave them. it doesn’t matter if you jugde people because of what sins they commit. cause in return your sinning too. And yes i am not happy with what ryan did. yes yes it scares me terribly. connsidering it happened right up the street from where my 2 babies and family live. and to be quite honnest i don’t think he would ever do something like that again even if he didn’t go to jail. cause you know what he has to live with the memory of what happened for the rest of his life. i am sure some of you don’t understand what kind of torture that can be.
daytwo
Oct 19, 2007 at 11:43 am
bless you fallen angel.
Josh Hinkle
Nov 22, 2007 at 1:17 pm
To Diana and any other member of Ryans supporting cast:
Today is Thanksgiving, and it is the first day I have heard about this website. I don’t spend time looking on the web to see what people think about this situation or how they try to redeem their families name. Since I have learned about the site and read over it, it sickens me to know all of you can throw around someones life to try to save yours, be it my sisters or some strangers.
Diana. not sure who you are but if I were to guess I would think you were one of his wonderful aunts. Your comments are immature as the one you support. Did I make mistakes in my life? Yes I have. You see though, there is a difference in making mistakes and continuing to make the same mistake and learning from them. unlike you and some of the members of your family i have made mistakes and learn from them. “Day Two,” your comment about me being in jail someday, it would only be to meet my favorite person Ryan and let him see how it feels to suffer. The difference is, I have a family to raise and examples to set. Sometimes to me an example is teaching one how to live up to a mistake and growing stronger as a person. Not cowering under the pressures of life. While you try to knock me for making mistakes, know that it soldiers like myself who fought for this country so your selfish family and friends could continue to live in it. For those who think what Ryan did is forgivable, I pray it never happens to someone you know. There isn’t a day that goes by where I don’t think of my sister and miss her. Was she perfect, no. Again, unlike your precious Ryan who ment so much to so many people., she could stand behind her mistake and not throw the blame on someone else. I challenge your family to try this sometime! I hope I don’t run into one of you someday because life is a bitch at times. I also hope you grow the fu.. up and quit throwing my sisters death around like it was some movie you saw on T.V. Although, I would expect nothing less out of the Dieterele’s. To Dave the father and the two brothers, I think you three are good people. I hope at some time the rest of you who sat through the trial look in the mirror someday and think about what you are really standing up for.
A.W.
Nov 26, 2007 at 3:16 pm
wtg Josh
I knew them Both
Dec 7, 2007 at 6:35 am
Good for you Josh:) As far as Michelle being a liar, adulterer and killing her baby. Hmmm, how many of you would want to try and raise a child with someone who is capable of doing what he did? Thank god, he never had any kids! I remember discussing that situation before it happened and although I am strongly against abortion I knew that was the right choice for this situation. No child should be raised by someone like Ryan. Liar? Maybe because she was afraid for her life? Adulter? I’m thinking that needing to put a restraining order on your husband so that he won’t come over and beat you up is good grounds for divorce. Ryan was sleeping with a stripper at the time and he is forgiven but she isn’t? Just because they didn’t have a piece of paper saying they were divorced doesn’t mean that it wasn’t over and for good reason. I have always had trouble with that one. God knows what is in someone’s heart. I never have thought that he cared whether or not you go to a judge and have legal papers to back that up. Ryan is in prison for the rest of his life for a reason!!!! He had his chance to defend himself and he lost. Michelle can’t defend herself so leave it alone. I am sure that it would be hard to have to deal with someone in your family doing the things that Ryan did and being sentenced to life without parole but Michelle’s family had to deal with what happened to their daughter. You people really need to face reality and accept what has happened here. Quit trying to justify it and make your “truth” known. You had that chance in court and it didn’t work out. I am moving on with my life knowing that Ryan is away for the rest of his life and that this time we did get justice. Nothing that you guys say is going to change the reality of what happened. Everyone else sees it. It is time to move on. Oh yeah, as far as Josh getting Ryan hooked on cocaine. I know him very well too and I know Dave and his trashy girlfriend, and I believe that all those nights Ryan wasn’t at home he was out doing cocaine with Dave his best friend. That is who he did the cocaine with and you all should know that. If you don’t then you don’t know Ryan as well as you thought you did.
April
Dec 7, 2007 at 10:05 am
You knew them both, huh? Well if you knew Ryan so well-then you know he loved Michelle, and those kids!! Im sick of this back and forth crap!! NO BODY REALLY KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT!! Yes, Michelle lost her life because of this, but so did Ryan!!! He has to live with this for the rest of his life-everyday-remembering what he did. You may have “known” the Ryan who was with Michelle, but believe me You didnt know the caring,funny,and dependable Ryan that we knew. You dont know someone unless you really know them-so SHUT YOUR MOUTH!! Michelle did alot to change Ryan-and when you love someone the way he loved her-You go crazy trying to fix things. I know that Ryans life is in Gods hands. You should pray that Michelles is???
I knew them Both
Dec 8, 2007 at 8:49 pm
It was those of you who are speaking on Ryan’s behalf that keep going back and forth. I am just trying to defend the VICTIM is this situation. I did know Ryan and I knew him before they were married. I know that he was abusive OBVIOUSLY and that he BRUTALLY murdered my best friend. NO this is not Chrisitie. I spent a lot of time with the both of them and I do know the truth of the situation. What do you mean no one really knows what happened that night, there was plenty of evidence in court that showed us enough of what happened that night. I don’t really care to know anything else. I know the whole situation play by play. Those of you who keep commenting on this monsters behalf are sick and that’s it. I was outraged that you idiots would post comments on the internet defending him and that is the reason I left my first comment. My second comment was left because someone was bashing Michelle. There is absolutely nothing that she did to deserve to be physically hit let alone murdered in the manner that she was. I am not going to waste anymore time on this I was just curious what you stupid fu**ing idiots would come up with next. Ryan was a whiny baby who I never liked from the beginning. Nothing was ever his fault, he didn’t know how to take responsibility for his own actions. He didn’t amount to ANYTHING he was 27 and living with his parents on house arrest for hitting Michelle. She had a job as a caseworker and was almost done with her Bachelor’s degree when she was murdered. No caring, loving, funny person would stab somebody seventeen times and rape them in their vagina and anus with a butcher knife you piece of shi*. You shut your mouth and you can go to he** with the rest of them. You can reply if you want but you will never win your wrong.Michelle is with me everyday and she is watching all of us from Heaven. Ryan will be sitting a jail cell for as long as he lives, which is hopefully a long time, and you can rest assured that he will be beaten and raped everyday and when he dies, which I hope is very slow and painful just as Michelle died he will suffer for eternity in hell. Justice was served.
Sitting knowing
Dec 21, 2007 at 11:57 pm
I’m glad hes sitting in jail. This all but gives him time, time to suffer, time to think, time for plans to be put into action.
I hope every second is felt by the son of a bi*&h. I’m glad they didn’t kill him. A quick shot and no pain is no way for him to go.
To the supporters of Ryan, Time for a head check! There is no reason to kill anyone. There is no excuse for what he has done. There is no “sorry” for this. At first I did not understand how anyone could support him. After thinking it over, I guess even Manson had supporters. Please pass this along to him for me when you go see him. GET A GOOD CELL MATE THAT LOVES HIM, Cause his time in Jail will be hell. And to the supporters of Ryan. Do NOT drag Michelle’s name in the dirt about his baby. That was MY doing. You want to be mad, be mad at me.
Looking at it now I was right. Now look at you all. Attacking her family! WTF is wrong with you all. shows who he was around.
I was beside myself that I seen all this on the net. Linda, Josh and Friends of Shell. Shes watching, She knows, She will deal with it. And anyone that knew her knows I’m right.
Christy
Dec 26, 2007 at 9:47 pm
Well I guess it time for me to speak. I have sat here and read all of your comments and not one of you who states they knew Ryan exactly knew both sides of what was going on in their relationship. You only heard Ryan’s side which would always favor him. He was and will always be the type of person who always blames the other person. His entire life he has played this game. I know Ryan and his family. So let’s start airing some of their dirt laundry like they tried to do to Michelle. Ryan’s family is the type of family who tells his soon to be wife (on their wedding day) to leave Ryan at the alter so obviously they thought something was wrong with him then. His family is the type of family who when their son’s wife gets raped, they call on Auntie to bring their son morphine (which they keep after his grandmother past instead of properly disposing of it) to help him cope with tragetic situation that his wife just went through instead of telling him to step up to the plate and be a man and take care of his wife. His family was the one who knew he had a drug problem and instead of getting him help, told him to stop hanging out with Dave and get better friends (Now this is what I would tell my child if he/she had a drug problem…drug rehap is soooo over rated! Those doctor only go to school for years in order to provide proper care. What do they know?). So enough with the bashing of the family. Let’s move on…So many topics to cover..We might return to this later. As for Ryan, Eric has known him for over 10 years and Ryan has ALWAYS had a problem with drugs and ALWAYS had a problem with hitting on girls (just ask his first wife..if you need her number, just ask me. I will get it for you) so for everyone out there who cannot accept reality…you need to because this situation is exactly who Ryan is!!!! He has had a problem for a long time..you are just too blind to see it! Josh had nothing to do with! Was justice served? HELL NO! There isn’t enough horrible things that can be done to Ryan to justify what he did to Michelle! Ryan did some unspeakable things to her that no one should ever go through. Was he defending himself? HELL NO!!! That was proven in court, STUPID. Stabbing someone in the back 2-3 times is NOT self-defense. What about his lose of memory? Self-defense to “I’m sorry” after being found guilty? That sounds like a coward to me! I guess he was trying to save his life after the poor pitiful me act didn’t work?? Okay enough of Ryan…He’s not worth anymore of my time. Let’s focus on Michelle:) She was great! That is all that needs to be said! She was human so she did make her mistakes but nothing that effects so many people like the one Ryan made so it doesn’t even compare! I love and miss Michelle deeply! She is my sister and my best friend and I will always remember her for the great person she was and is for the rest of my life and I am blessed to have had her in my life and not one of you can take that away from me, no matter what you say about her! The people who knew Michelle knows that everyone posting on this site in a negative fashion towards her is just trying to justify in their minds that there has to be a reason why he did this so they can be at ease but unfortunately there is no reason except you just have EVIL blood running through you. Accept and move on!!! TRULY, there is no other reason! I can honestly say that I go to bed every night knowing that Michelle is in heaven look down upon us and Ryan is NOT forgiven because he truly doesn’t regret what he did. He knew what he was doing then and knows what he did now and doesn’t feel a bit of remorse! So keep thinking he is forgiven if it helps you sleep at night! It’s that whole warped reality you live in! MICHELLE WILL SERVE JUSTICE!!! YOU CAN COUNT ON THAT!!!
April
Dec 28, 2007 at 1:16 pm
U MUST REALLY BE STUPID!! I WOULD LOVE TO SAY THIS TO YOUR FACE, BUT FOR NOW THIS WILL HAVE TO DO-RYAN IS VERY SORRY FOR WHAT HAPPENED, AND DOES HAVE REMORSE!! AND AGAIN, U DIDNT KNOW RYAN-LIKE YOU CLAIM, AND AS FOR ERIC-HES A PUSSY!!! HE DOESNT EVEN HAVE THE NERVE TO BE A MAN!! AND AS FAR AS HIS FIRST WIFE GOES, SHE WAS GOING TO TESTIFY IN HIS DEFENSE!! STUPID PEOPLE MAKE ME SICK. LEARN THE FACTS FIRST!! AND AS FOR MICHELLE, SHE WAS CHEATING ON HER HUSBAND-ILL KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT ON THE NAME CALLING! YOU REALLY NEED TO READ THE BIBLE!!-RYAN IS FORGIVEN-AND THERES NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT THAT-SO STOP TRYING TO MAKE URSELF FEEL BETTER!! AND IF YOU DONT LEARN TO FORGIVE HIM, ULL END UP BEING JUDGED FOR THAT TOO-JUST WAIT!!
The Reverend
Dec 28, 2007 at 2:47 pm
Reading the Bible is one thing, living by it and being a decent person is another thing indeed. My suggestion is that you quit hiding behind the Bible and start trying to live by it. Your comments in themselves are blasphemous. The Bible is much more than a book, and the size of it alone will not conceal your actions and words from God. Look into the mirror and into your soul and try to find some love and kindness there and live your life to be a better person. If you truly believe that Ryan is forgiven, then why do you try so hard to defend him? “The lady (questionable when you consider what has been written) doth protest too much, methinks”. It almost sounds as if you are trying to convince yourself.
Ryan’s actions caused this tragedy, no one else murdered anyone. He is left to deal with his actions and he alone will face God for his acts. If he chooses to not only ask for forgiveness, but live his life somehow making a difference for good rather than the evil that he has previously chosen, then he will be forgiven. If he mouths the words to try to con God into believing that he is sorry and he truly isn’t then he will serve an eternal sentence in hell in addition to the life sentence that he has been given as deserved.
Michelle didn’t deserve to be murdered even though some of you speak as if she did. What a horrible way to think and to act. Michelle will also face God for her actions in life as we all will. I have read many posts that speak as if somehow Michelle’s actions caused her to deserve to be murdered. This makes me terribly sad, especially since the writers claim to know God and the bible so well. Frankly, I don’t know any of us who is without sin, nor do I know any of us who should be casting the stones that are being thrown. It doesn’t matter how much or how hard you pound the good book, if you do so with hate in your heart, you are only beating pages that in reality mean nothing to you. That is blasphemy.
I have followed this case in the news, courtroom, here, and other places, and ducked while the continual mud has been slung. Perhaps it’s time for everyone on both sides to stop and think about their own actions and start trying to heal from this horrible tragedy.
I believe that Michelle would want any of the people she loved to keep hurting and suffering like you are. Michelle would probably want you to instead do something good with the energy and love that you feel and felt for her. I do understand speaking for and standing up for someone who you loved who has died in such a horrible way, but use the power of your love to make a difference and let yourself start to heal. Use it to do something for the better good concerning something that Michelle had a passion for. Perhaps volunteer work for domestic violence in her name and spirit is appropriate. Pass on what was good about her so that she will continue to live in some way. Otherwise, the good is gone forever and that would be another tragedy. Do something her daughters can look at and be proud of. They deserve and need that.
My wish for all that pass here is that you can find a small bit of peace in the coming new year and that the anger and hate that you may feel can be passed to others in a positive way so that one woman’s tragic death and one man’s wasted life can be turned into a tiny bit of good. Take care of yourselves and let yourself begin to heal. No matter which side you are on here, you have to realize that the person you care for wouldn’t want you to continue to hurt. Do it for that person.
Peace be with you…
gma
Dec 29, 2007 at 3:34 pm
Reverend,
I don’t know who you are, but you have stated so eloquently the words and feelings I have wanted to say. The creator of this web site is the only person who benefits from the hate that is spewed here. My hope is that both sides will put aside their opinions and do just what you have said. Do something good for mankind. Put your energy into something to honor Michelle. Anyone associated with Ryan’s side would turn back the hands of time, as would I am sure, anyone associated with Michelle. These are two families that have been torn apart and want someone to feel their pain, thus the hateful words, but it needs to end. No one knows what happened, everyone just assumes they know the truth. None of us do, and none of us will ever be the same. We can all sling the “truth”to make our side look better, but nothing good comes of it. Move on, let your anger and hate do something good.
kati
Jan 15, 2008 at 5:08 pm
gosh, i have sat here and read everyones comments about this . i am ryans ex-girlfriend. i was with him on and off for 3 years. i don’t want to bad mouth him but he had a drug problem when he was with me. he needed to get help. i am sorry that this happened to michelle. i think about her and her children all the time. i believe that ryan got what he deserved. you shouldn’t beable to hurt someone you love the way he did. i think about this all the time. it really bothers me. i use to be in love with him. i slept next to him at night. it’s horriffing knowing that i loved someone who could do that to another human. once again i am sorry that this happened to michelle.
mt healthy
Jan 15, 2008 at 10:37 pm
My hope is that God is with both families and that they all may somehow find peace
ex friend of ryan
Jun 3, 2008 at 6:02 pm
it does not matter if michelle was seeing someone… it doesn’t matter how nice ryan was before… WHAT MATTERS IS RYAN CLIMBED IN HER BALCONY “INTRUDER!!!!!” and so what if she stabbed him first RYAN HAD NO BUSINESS OVER THERE. AND HE RAPED HER WITH A KNIFE AND BEAT HER SAVAGLY….. i cannot believe you people on either side are trying to act like he had a right to behave like that. IT IS WRONG!!! STOP TALKING IN RYANS DEFENSE. THE PICTURES ARE WORTH A MILLION WORDS AND SO ARE THE FACTS!!! ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! none of this b.s. really matters…. what happened that night WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED HAD HE OBEYED HIS PROTECTION ORDER. HE BROKE THE LAW. HIS ACTIONS STARTED ALL THIS. SHE WAS ASLEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!! RYAN DID THIS AND HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT!!!!!!!! NOT MICHELLE.
those poor children…. please channel this energy wasted here on this site to do something positive… send money or offer help to the little girls with no mom. they are the true sufferers
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